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Published on November 7, 2007 By Dan Greene In Personal Computing
I've had an OEM copy of Vista Ultimate 64 bit version, with all the updates installed expect the foreign language ones, for about a month now. This article details the features which I do not like.

7. Instant search tool, great useless tool, the constant indexing of my hard drive has not actually made it any easier to find what I was looking for. Sure if know the exact name of a file or the general size yeah I can save time because I don't have to wait for a search to complete, but I generally have to do several searches to find what I am looking for. Still not very helpful

6. Inconsistent loading of the OS. I turned on my comp when I came home and just let it sit, didn't log in nothing, went to watch some tv for a bit, had dinner, came back to a blank screen, a solid on harddrive light and dvd rw drive light on solid, no signal to the monitor. I pressed the spacebar, wiggled the mouse, tried esc, then CRTL + ALT + DEL, nothing changed. I had to reboot because Vista feel off a cliff while I wasn't using it. Fucking lame.

5. UAC, nuff said, annoying as fuck, turning it off, in my system tray the red shield icon sits, unable to ever get that out of there, every once in a while when Vista feels like pushing my buttons, it pops up like the robot from lost in space "DANGER DANGER" whatever. When you turn off a feature in Windows it should go away, and bother you no longer. Not the UAC, I'm sure there is a hack, but I am seriously not motivated enough to figure it out cause I am just gonna scrap Vista if SP1 doesn't radically change my mind.

4. I hate with Vista, that sometimes programs like Yahoo messenger, lock up or crash, Doom3 has done it, and it brings the OS down as well, Like I can CRTL + ALT + DEL and get to the menu of options, which are all bad execpt the task manager, which is the only thing I wanna see pop up when it happens, but when messenger dies for whatever reason, it locks the whole OS up. On XP with this same rig, via my quad core, I could just select the process, and kill it, and restart Messenger, with Vista, I can't get the power of the 3 cpus not maxxed out, to the task manager. That's bullshit Microsoft!

3. Disk utilities, specifically the defragmenter, I'll run that, then I'll run the Aus logic disk defrag, and get another 5-10% better defrag from doing that, WTF?

2. Lack of extras and I mean serious lack. There is no Windows Virus scanning, so I use AVG, but with Windows having historical vulnerability to viruses you'd think that they would be interested in providing a free anti-virus for people running Vista, but my biggest lack of extra falls into the category of Word Processing. There is no MS WORD, no EXCEL, nothing, on the "Ultimate" copy of Vista. Basically you spend $200 on an OS, and then you can spend another $150-$600 on word processing software? Seriously, a computers primary job used to be word processing and it has never really gotten away from that. Imagine, a coffee maker that doesn't brew coffee anymore, but controls your television. Where the hell is Microsoft on the ball on this one?

1. Slowness, I hate that this OS runs slower, and bogs itself down, on a monster system. It is probably more secure and maybe more stable than XP, but I was doing fine with XP SP2, security wise, and stability wise, and experiencing much more responsive OS tasking, and switching between what I was doing. Vista is all bullshit when it says you can do more with more.

There are only two benefits that Vista has going for it, one is DX10 and DX10.1, and being able to handle more than 4 GB RAM. That's it. I have decided that everything else about Vista is either pure fluff or less than the value offered by XP.

[MOVED FROM BELOW DUE TO JU's PISS POOR EDITING SCHEME]

Well here are a few things I would have included in the Vista Ultimate package.

1. Better Speech Recognition The Vista Speech Recognition menu is slightly faster but it doesn't seem to recognize my speech any more effectively than XP. Which is sad. Gates said that he saw us using verbal speech to communicate with our computers much more than typing way back in the 70's/80's. For sure it would be faster and more efficient than typing. My first experience with speech recognition was in the days for a 500 mhz cpu. Then again with my single core 2.4 ghz processor. Now that I have a quad core, of which Vista mostly doesn't utilize, the experience has not significantly improved. This type of a program could/would vastly improve the versatility of an OS. It would also give Windows a feature other OS's don't have setting them apart.

2. Real Word Processing: MS WORD Where is the Word Processor for Vista? Oh yeah it's in another $500 upgrade package aside from the OS. What bullshit. They don't even include the back burner Microsoft Works anymore. They could have at least given the user MS WORD 97 or 2003 or something instead of nothing with ULTIMATE! What they did give you is the antiquated notepad which doesn't even "nextline" properly but reads text files great. Except for the free Textpad program which works even better and opens more different kinds of text files. Wordpad was also included but it's the same Wordpad as WIN95. Really is that what I'm paying for with Ultimate, a word processor that was midrange 13 years ago?

3. Faster and better performance than the previous OS Really instead of the whole sidebar crap they could have bumped the speed of the a window closing or opening from the half second you see, to something like a tenth of a second, increased the size of the red X bar so when you wanna close something, you close it on the first try every time, and instead of just renaming everything from XP to Vista, they should have errorer on the side of making fewer changes to names of things, because now everybody has to learn a whole new OS again. If I was going to have the sidebar, the first thing I'd have in there is a google map of where the computer is at, instead of a second clock, 4 inches above my digital clock on the system tray. Real big benefit Microsoft.

4. Driver Support for EVERYTHING I mean everything, Microsoft is the biggest company in the industry, they have an OS which is the basis for everything to run on and 3rd party devs to develop for, not the other way around. Vista, should have included all the drivers that XP had for programs and hardware, and automatically emulated 32bit mode when necessary. So that end users, i.e. me, don't have to go digging online to find drivers for stuff that works with XP just fine. On a 15 gigabyte install, there wasn't room for a folder with these updates/drivers?

5. Real Backward Compatibility With an Ultimate copy, or "Premium level copy" of anything, there should be support for programs that originally ran on older copies of Microsoft OS's. Start with DOS and work your way up. This should come standard, with Vista Ultimate and why not. Obviously end users aren't going to be able to remember every thing they run on XP or Win 2000 that ran on older stuff like 98SE, 95, and DOS. There are a very few but select programs that people keep and run be it because of older machines or just low IT budgets. Whatever, there is a need to run older stuff and that capability should be with Vista at the "Premium level copy" of the OS.

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on Nov 07, 2007
BoXXi hugs his XP..........
on Nov 07, 2007
7. I don't thinks it's that bad.  I find that I am using it more and more and if you don't like it, you can turn off indexing and go the XP route
6. Haven't seen that but understand it could be irritating
5. Thank God for TweakVista!!
4. I have NEVER seen that.  Something fugly might be going on there.  I have apps crash (infrequently) but they never take down Vista
3. And if they did the monopolists would go nuts about MS killing competition
2. See above
1. If you are running Vista on the same HW you were running XP you will likely take a hit.  That should be expected.

As always in these type of posts, it's good that we have choices in OS vendors and OS.  You should always run the system that fits your functionality needs, your budget, your security comfort zone, etc.
on Nov 07, 2007
Lion hugs and squeezes his XP too   
on Nov 07, 2007
5. in my system tray the red shield icon sits, unable to ever get that out of there


You have a choice in the security center to turn off the warnings.
on Nov 07, 2007

The seven things I hate about Vista:

1) The start menu
2) The start menu
3) The start menu
4) The start menu
5) The start menu
6) The start menu
7) The start menu

The single largest step backwards in O/S history. Who ever designed that folder system should be keel-hauled.

on Nov 07, 2007
I don't really care that you are moaning about Vista- it's really the whole whambulance attitude. If you hate it so much, stop posting and complaining about it and go back to XP, already. (Hey I just got Vista I'm paying the "Ultimate" Price for it! and 7 things I hate about Vista)

If you can't afford it, perhaps you can stand on a corner and collect 1 penny for each of your many complaints and then use them to revert to a legit XP.

The disc gave me a 30 day free trial period with which to run until activation. Try as I might to find illegitimate ways to get past activation, and they do exist I guess, I couldn't get anything to work lol, though I only really made a few half assed attempts.


on Nov 07, 2007
Hugging, cherishing and still loving my XP.  
on Nov 07, 2007
AL hugs his Vista Machine

Never had a problem.
Much quicker than my XP machine. Ram,ram,and more ram
The only time the UAC comes up is when I open SDC or IP.
"There is no Windows Virus scanning" it's called Windows Defender and Norton. Don't laugh never
had a virus accept a cookie tracker.
Every time I hear that people don't like Vista the next thing they say is 64bit. I think there
lies the problem.
That and Nvidia. I've read on this site most people complain that there is no areo or video games
are crashing there CPU's and it seems like it's the 8000 series cards.

Vista Ultimate, Intel Dual Core 6600 @ 2.40GHz, 4 gigs ram, 512 ATI vid card 30x faster than
XP MediaCenter, Intel Dual Core 2.80GHz, 4gigs ram, 128 ATI vid card
on Nov 07, 2007
The single largest step backwards in O/S history. Who ever designed that folder system should be keel-hauled.
Thank goodness for ObjectBar.
on Nov 07, 2007
I like running Vista Ultimate 64 better than XP XP Pro anytime. Vista has never crashed due to a software issue. I did have a crash due to my nvidia card I used to have. Since I switched to an ATI X1950 XT, I've never had a problem. I do have a dual boot system with XP on a seperate drive. The only reason I have XP at all is due to Sandisk  and Real not having a build of Rhapsody that works on Vista. I have a Sansa mp3 player and it uses Rhapsody.   Other than that, I'd be strictly Vista Ultimate 64 al the way. I am unhappy about the lack of Ultimate Exras thus far, though.
on Nov 07, 2007
Just sent my machine back to hp, 8 months old and wont boot up. running vista home premium edition. Hope it comes back with XP on it. !!!!!
on Nov 07, 2007
bilbo hugs his vista...
on Nov 07, 2007
Snake: HP partitions the harddrive so you can make a restore disk or use the partition to bring you cpu back to factory condition. That's probably what HP will do.
on Nov 07, 2007
Anne hugs her Wonderful Vista...


Why must we do the battles of Which OS is better???
on Nov 07, 2007
The seven things I hate about Vista:
1) The start menu
2) The start menu
3) The start menu
4) The start menu
5) The start menu
6) The start menu
7) The start menu
The single largest step backwards in O/S history. Who ever designed that folder system should be keel-hauled.


Wholeheartedly Agree
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