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Published on November 7, 2007 By Dan Greene In Personal Computing
I've had an OEM copy of Vista Ultimate 64 bit version, with all the updates installed expect the foreign language ones, for about a month now. This article details the features which I do not like.

7. Instant search tool, great useless tool, the constant indexing of my hard drive has not actually made it any easier to find what I was looking for. Sure if know the exact name of a file or the general size yeah I can save time because I don't have to wait for a search to complete, but I generally have to do several searches to find what I am looking for. Still not very helpful

6. Inconsistent loading of the OS. I turned on my comp when I came home and just let it sit, didn't log in nothing, went to watch some tv for a bit, had dinner, came back to a blank screen, a solid on harddrive light and dvd rw drive light on solid, no signal to the monitor. I pressed the spacebar, wiggled the mouse, tried esc, then CRTL + ALT + DEL, nothing changed. I had to reboot because Vista feel off a cliff while I wasn't using it. Fucking lame.

5. UAC, nuff said, annoying as fuck, turning it off, in my system tray the red shield icon sits, unable to ever get that out of there, every once in a while when Vista feels like pushing my buttons, it pops up like the robot from lost in space "DANGER DANGER" whatever. When you turn off a feature in Windows it should go away, and bother you no longer. Not the UAC, I'm sure there is a hack, but I am seriously not motivated enough to figure it out cause I am just gonna scrap Vista if SP1 doesn't radically change my mind.

4. I hate with Vista, that sometimes programs like Yahoo messenger, lock up or crash, Doom3 has done it, and it brings the OS down as well, Like I can CRTL + ALT + DEL and get to the menu of options, which are all bad execpt the task manager, which is the only thing I wanna see pop up when it happens, but when messenger dies for whatever reason, it locks the whole OS up. On XP with this same rig, via my quad core, I could just select the process, and kill it, and restart Messenger, with Vista, I can't get the power of the 3 cpus not maxxed out, to the task manager. That's bullshit Microsoft!

3. Disk utilities, specifically the defragmenter, I'll run that, then I'll run the Aus logic disk defrag, and get another 5-10% better defrag from doing that, WTF?

2. Lack of extras and I mean serious lack. There is no Windows Virus scanning, so I use AVG, but with Windows having historical vulnerability to viruses you'd think that they would be interested in providing a free anti-virus for people running Vista, but my biggest lack of extra falls into the category of Word Processing. There is no MS WORD, no EXCEL, nothing, on the "Ultimate" copy of Vista. Basically you spend $200 on an OS, and then you can spend another $150-$600 on word processing software? Seriously, a computers primary job used to be word processing and it has never really gotten away from that. Imagine, a coffee maker that doesn't brew coffee anymore, but controls your television. Where the hell is Microsoft on the ball on this one?

1. Slowness, I hate that this OS runs slower, and bogs itself down, on a monster system. It is probably more secure and maybe more stable than XP, but I was doing fine with XP SP2, security wise, and stability wise, and experiencing much more responsive OS tasking, and switching between what I was doing. Vista is all bullshit when it says you can do more with more.

There are only two benefits that Vista has going for it, one is DX10 and DX10.1, and being able to handle more than 4 GB RAM. That's it. I have decided that everything else about Vista is either pure fluff or less than the value offered by XP.

[MOVED FROM BELOW DUE TO JU's PISS POOR EDITING SCHEME]

Well here are a few things I would have included in the Vista Ultimate package.

1. Better Speech Recognition The Vista Speech Recognition menu is slightly faster but it doesn't seem to recognize my speech any more effectively than XP. Which is sad. Gates said that he saw us using verbal speech to communicate with our computers much more than typing way back in the 70's/80's. For sure it would be faster and more efficient than typing. My first experience with speech recognition was in the days for a 500 mhz cpu. Then again with my single core 2.4 ghz processor. Now that I have a quad core, of which Vista mostly doesn't utilize, the experience has not significantly improved. This type of a program could/would vastly improve the versatility of an OS. It would also give Windows a feature other OS's don't have setting them apart.

2. Real Word Processing: MS WORD Where is the Word Processor for Vista? Oh yeah it's in another $500 upgrade package aside from the OS. What bullshit. They don't even include the back burner Microsoft Works anymore. They could have at least given the user MS WORD 97 or 2003 or something instead of nothing with ULTIMATE! What they did give you is the antiquated notepad which doesn't even "nextline" properly but reads text files great. Except for the free Textpad program which works even better and opens more different kinds of text files. Wordpad was also included but it's the same Wordpad as WIN95. Really is that what I'm paying for with Ultimate, a word processor that was midrange 13 years ago?

3. Faster and better performance than the previous OS Really instead of the whole sidebar crap they could have bumped the speed of the a window closing or opening from the half second you see, to something like a tenth of a second, increased the size of the red X bar so when you wanna close something, you close it on the first try every time, and instead of just renaming everything from XP to Vista, they should have errorer on the side of making fewer changes to names of things, because now everybody has to learn a whole new OS again. If I was going to have the sidebar, the first thing I'd have in there is a google map of where the computer is at, instead of a second clock, 4 inches above my digital clock on the system tray. Real big benefit Microsoft.

4. Driver Support for EVERYTHING I mean everything, Microsoft is the biggest company in the industry, they have an OS which is the basis for everything to run on and 3rd party devs to develop for, not the other way around. Vista, should have included all the drivers that XP had for programs and hardware, and automatically emulated 32bit mode when necessary. So that end users, i.e. me, don't have to go digging online to find drivers for stuff that works with XP just fine. On a 15 gigabyte install, there wasn't room for a folder with these updates/drivers?

5. Real Backward Compatibility With an Ultimate copy, or "Premium level copy" of anything, there should be support for programs that originally ran on older copies of Microsoft OS's. Start with DOS and work your way up. This should come standard, with Vista Ultimate and why not. Obviously end users aren't going to be able to remember every thing they run on XP or Win 2000 that ran on older stuff like 98SE, 95, and DOS. There are a very few but select programs that people keep and run be it because of older machines or just low IT budgets. Whatever, there is a need to run older stuff and that capability should be with Vista at the "Premium level copy" of the OS.

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on Nov 07, 2007
RoseNell hugs her Vista,, I HAVE NONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU STATED IN YOUR ORGINAL POST. May be its your computer. Not one of the things your posted do I have a problem with. I can still do just about everything I could do on XP.. Even better.

Faster, more secure, I have learned how to skin it now without any problems.

I would take a look more closely at your issues and check out your computer.
Good luck...
on Nov 07, 2007
it seems like it's the 8000 series cards


Im running a GeForce 8600 GT and have had zero issues with it. Works like a champ.
I also semi-agree with BookChick.. I think you made your points pretty well known on your previous thread.

While I am not overall impressed that much with Vista, I might as well keep it and get used to it as it is the way things are going. I would rather be well versed in it when the masses are just cutting their teeth on it.
on Nov 07, 2007
What's that saying "Intel inside idiot outside" nough said.
on Nov 07, 2007
Thanks ALMonty, i have made the restore discs, but nothing happens when inserted in the drive. Staples UK where the machine was bought cannot get it to work either. All good fun !!!!
on Nov 07, 2007
Good things will come to those that wait and will look to the future!
Vista is one of the best operating systems on the market today. User friendly NO~!
If you don't care for it - get rid of it and stay in the back with the rest of the crowd. Who has XP problems still too!!!!
I'm staying up to date and everything works correctly here with no problems. If there is a problem I fix it. So I have no problems to speak about that has me bluffed yet.

SGT
on Nov 07, 2007
Im running a GeForce 8600 GT and have had zero issues with it.


I'm not saying everyone that has those cards has problems. Most people that say they can't run Dreams, their specs contain 8000 series cards.


Or they just don't know how to update their drivers.
on Nov 07, 2007
The seven things I hate about Vista:

1) The start menu
2) The start menu
3) The start menu
4) The start menu
5) The start menu
6) The start menu
7) The start menu

The single largest step backwards in O/S history. Who ever designed that folder system should be keel-hauled.


I find the Start Menu a huge step forward. To have one neat small menu where all you have to do is type the first three letters of the app you are looking for into the 'Start Search' box is, for me, infinitely quicker and more intuitive than having all your programs spread out over the entire screen.

As for the indexing, I've also found that after you've had Vista for a while, it's a good idea to rebuild your search index with the Folder Locations you need. Initially it takes an hour or two do index the locations (and you really should not work on your machine at all while it does this), but once it's finished you then have a very quick search tool for you system.

After using Vista for the last eight months my experiences have been very positive. On my system is has been amazingly stable, faster than XP, quicker than XP. I love the sleep mode when I shut my laptop. I go for over a week without having to reboot. However, this is, of course, just my personal view and if it's not running well on your system then put XP back on it.
on Nov 07, 2007
I find the Start Menu a huge step forward. To have one neat small menu where all you have to do is type the first three letters of the app you are looking for into the 'Start Search' box is, for me, infinitely quicker and more intuitive than having all your programs spread out over the entire screen.

As for the indexing, I've also found that after you've had Vista for a while, it's a good idea to rebuild your search index with the Folder Locations you need. Initially it takes an hour or two do index the locations (and you really should not work on your machine at all while it does this), but once it's finished you then have a very quick search tool for you system.

After using Vista for the last eight months my experiences have been very positive. On my system is has been amazingly stable, faster than XP, quicker than XP. I love the sleep mode when I shut my laptop. I go for over a week without having to reboot. However, this is, of course, just my personal view and if it's not running well on your system then put XP back on it.


BookChick wholeheartedly agrees and hugs her Vista.
on Nov 07, 2007
whambulance


  
on Nov 08, 2007
Am I missing something like a plug in for this site? I keep seeing all kinds of html that looks like it should be hidden.

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[color="#FF0000"]NO~!


LOL...

Anyway, Vista doesn't actually crash, it just hangs and does whatever it is doing going on about 3 min before I have to reboot if I want to get any work done, this is when Yahoo Messenger fucks up. With XP I could always get to the task manager and it was always given priority 1 on the system at least from my perspective as user.

You guys are right, it's a good idea to go with XP, and I have tried over and over, at this point I will have to spend another $100 to do that, and I just don't have the motivation like I wrote.

One day though, when I am having a particuarly typical exprience with Vista, fucking acting like a system hog on my top of the line rig, and I'll just snap, and go out and pay whatever it costs to get XP again. I might even just take my harddrive and fucking hammer it out back. I've already given my friend my copy of the Vista DVD just in case I get the old urge to fire up the microwave with a DVD in it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xy4mzu6U-s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Telrq_8Ufs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyRnEEKPXg8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-oWB4z0rsQ

beep beep beep beep Vista is done honey!
Maniacal laughter in the background

on Nov 08, 2007
I believe your security has been compromised badly. You need to run a good scan on that computer for spy ware and anti-virus. You for sure have something running in the background on that system~!

I would suggest using NOD32 for virus scan and spy sweeper for spy ware. the new spy sweeper does come with anti-virus and a small firewall now. so I would download and run it. it can be downloaded here at this link
WWW Link

use the free scan...
good luck!

SGT
on Nov 08, 2007
I find the Start Menu a huge step forward. To have one neat small menu where all you have to do is type the first three letters


You should try skinning it, the skinning of the start menu has been significantly restricted now in Vista... also.. some of us don't want to type to find an app that was right there is XP's all progs menu, conveniently sorted by name and not scrunched into a panel that is too narrow to accommodate apps with larger filenames.

If the next version of Windows reverts to the XP way of all programs listing I shall b extremely pleased. Its the main reason myself and most of the skinners I know do not like it.
on Nov 08, 2007
The single largest step backwards in O/S history. Who ever designed that folder system should be keel-hauled.
Thank goodness for ObjectBar.


Thank goodness for RightClick!!!
on Nov 08, 2007
Thank goodness for RightClick!!!
ObjectBar!!
on Nov 08, 2007
Yes, I too use RightClick in Vista. Gives a 'normal' start menu   
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