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Was it worth it? Answer.... no
Published on January 24, 2008 By Dan Greene In OS Wars
First let me say I'm not joking when I say I'd love to reply to your posts, but I am seemingly unable to reply only edit the original post, does anybody have any suggestions, I'm using Vista lol and firefox. Is my brower missing the reply functionality?

I purchased an OEM copy of Vista, when I was given the dilemma by Microsoft of either purchasing a OEM XP License for about $10 less than getting an OEM copy of Vista via newegg.

What I can tell you is that I have been a computer user since the 80's and have a history of OS usage, dating back to whatever they called the OS on the Apple IIGS, DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1, Win 95/98/98SE/2000/XP and of course OEM VISTA ULTIMATE 64 bit.

I have finally settled down with Vista, but I am left looking for the new and improved features which really give me the feeling that they are all that (sorta) without the bag of chips.

I don't understand why Vista wasn't packaged as saleable service pack to XP because Vista truly offers an almost immeasurable benefit per dollar over XP.

One of the major downsides of Vista, is the necessity to upgrade hardware on older rigs to achieve performance standards easily obtainable with 2 or 3 or 4 year old hardware on XP. Also, with only 2GB of ram in the sytem, it is smooth, but it would be equally smooth with XP, so while there is intelligent (supposedly) buffering of the RAM by Vista, perhaps reducing the load time on programs you use consistently at certain times of the day, in Vista over XP I don't see that it is a major advantage over XP. I use XP at work daily, Windows 2000 weekly, and Vista at home.

At this point I am pretty comfy with Vista, I have totally disabled the UAC, and I am left to wonder if I am really safer with Vista vs XP. I did have a virus or nasty bit of malware at one time, with Vista, which I was able to safely dispose of using System Restore. On my old single core rig, System Restore no longer works for unknown reasoning, also I cannot reformat the drive, and install a clean OS, because I no longer have the activation code which I'll have to call up Dell TSupport and spend more hours of my life than it is worth to deal with that, while having a protected computer readily available should there be a problem.

However, with Vista Ultimate, no update to the speech recognition system, no word processor which interfaces with the speech recognition, and no real surviving feature that I get excited by.

At this point I would have preferred to get OEM XP and a cheap or bootleg copy of Office, just for the fact that I have spell check and compatibility with work computers, Excel files.

There are a few visual things but nothing to justify 5 years of development, nothing to justify the price, and certainly nothing to want me to invest any money in upcoming Windows 7 or go Microsoft in the future. Unfortunately they have damaged their company image, going from the evil almost monopoly to the exploiter of that power to release drab OS software that lacks completeness and robustness.

There is nothing that truly bothers me about Vista Ultimate, if you forget about, No MS WORD, No OS integrated Microsoft Virus Protection, and lack of incompatibility of the Vista Speech Recognition Engine with Open Office.

I believe that Vista, really does deserve the half assed product award. At this point.



How does one make a reply in ones' own post? JU must have changed since I was last here since I can no longer reply to users in the forum which is kinda stupid in my opinion.

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on Jan 24, 2008
Here we go again...
on Jan 24, 2008
Here we go again...


Nope... we just ain't gonna participate in yet another "I hate steenkin' Veesta" thread.

BTW... I like steenkin' Veesta Ultimate.
on Jan 24, 2008
What, did someone say something?  
on Jan 24, 2008
Oh man - where is our sense of adventure??!!
on Jan 24, 2008
Thats right! Vista rules! Now bow down you mere mortal and praise Vista!
on Jan 24, 2008
vista has always run flawlessly for me. it may not be for everyone but for this old geezer, it's perfect. i have a question, though. why is it people feel the need to keep posting threads about not liking the os?i think there are enough of them out there. do people not remember that xp was pretty unstable for some folks when it was released?
on Jan 24, 2008
Nope... we just ain't gonna participate in yet another "I hate steenkin' Veesta" thread.


Ahhhh !!! Why not ?????? .. coulda been fun ! ! ! !   

Incidentally I was one of the many Vista Testers over on ProNetworks, and had the pleasure, and of course the displeasure,occasionally, of trying out all the betas before it was RTM ...A pastime that I enjoyed immensely ...

Most people do a bit of research about products they intend buying ..

Remember how long it took for MS to get XP sorted ...given , to a certain extent that some stuff still isn't right .. You cannot expect a new OS to be immediately perfect ... too many variables ...but they will get it right .. or as near as dammit ..

I dual boot Vista Ultimate and XP , for what I need , both do the job ...

At present , my system of choice is XP ... I feel comfortable with it ... a lot of people feel the same about Vista .. each to his/her own..

BTW... I like steenkin' Veesta Ultimate.


And why not ? ....

on Jan 25, 2008
why is it people feel the need to keep posting threads about not liking the os?


Because you are the exception to the rules. For most people Vista is a crappy OS.

For example I would like Vista more IF it ran very very good on my Pentium 4 system with 512 MB of RAM. The fact I have to upgrade just to run a OS is stupid. This P4 still works so why get rid of it?
on Jan 25, 2008
At this point I would have preferred to get OEM XP and a cheap or bootleg copy of Office, just for the fact that I have spell check and compatibility with work computers, Excel files.

So, Am I to assume this means your OK with software piracy?  

There is nothing that truly bothers me about Vista Ultimate, if you forget about, No MS WORD, No OS integrated Microsoft Virus Protection,

And you think these come with XP?
on Jan 25, 2008
on Jan 25, 2008
For most people Vista is a crappy OS


Maybe on some forums but in the outside world generally I don't think so.  
I know dozens of people with it,including myself and many at WinCustomize who have no issues whatsoever. 
on Jan 25, 2008
Windows for Workgroups did everything I needed.  And that was with a 40 MB HD, 25mHz CPU, and 4MB of ram. 
I have been loath to install any OS since then.

However . . I do like the improved game of Hearts in Vista. 
on Jan 25, 2008
Because you are the exception to the rules. For most people Vista is a crappy OS.


I hear a hell of alot more people liking it than hating it, so to me the haters are the exception to the rule.
Maybe on some forums but in the outside world generally I don't think so.

Exactly.
on Jan 25, 2008
Because you are the exception to the rules. For most people Vista is a crappy OS.


Even if it is not an exception, I for one do not mind reading about other's experiences with the OS. Being in the industry, I do have to support it, and like is not part of the job description.

If you like it, write why. I want to know. If you hate it, write why. I want to know that too.
on Jan 25, 2008
As far as upgrading your memory goes. I see the valid concerns of this. I would point out though that most people that play games have to endure these normal upgrades of hardware to enjoy the latest that is offered. What's the difference?

But hey, Im just your typical arrogant antagonist American that is incapable of an original thought...
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